or will it be like with health care, they're still trying to repeal obama care. >> i don't think it ends the conversation. i'm not sure there are in republicans in a position to change it anytime soon. you know, the minnesota house is up next year, but the minnesota senate is not. so it would take them another presidential year to try again. and frankly, when what we've seen in the polls on all of this, who knows where the polling will be. who knows where people will be in 2014, in 2016, and in 2020? >> and we don't know that, but we do know the polling is much different than it was in 2002, 2003. look at that state like mine, and it's funny, in our state, we were defining the definition of marriage and that meant marriage between a man and a woman. but if you look at those and where our state has evolved from since then. in 2002, it was a political issue. it was for karl rove and for the rest of them to get all of these republicans out of their houses and to the polls and it worked. >> and look at just the last year. this week is the one-year anniversary of president obama coming out in